HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-4-2024 HHDC Draft Minutes (1)
Town of Barnstable
Hyannis Main Street Waterfront Historic District Commission
www.townofbarnstable.ma.us/hyannismainstreet
MINUTES
December 4, 2024
6:30 p.m.
Members Present: Cheryl Powell, Matt Clark, Laura Cronin, Jack Kay, Tom Doherty , Kevin Matthews, Peri
Wentworth, and Conrad Watson
Members Absent: Cornelius Cawley, Jeniffer Hinckley Needham and Jack Kay
Staff Present: Corey Pacheco, Senior Planner and Karen Pina, Principal Assistant, Planning & Development
Dept. in attendance.
To all persons deemed interested or affected by the Town of Barnstable’s Hyannis Main Street Waterfront Historic District
Commission Ordinance under Chapter 112, Article III of the Code of the Town of Barnstable, you are hereby notified that a hearing
is being held at Town Hall, 367 Main Street, Hyannis, MA Selectmen’s Conference Room, 2nd Floor 6:30 P.M. on Wednesday,
December 4, 2024.
The meeting will be televised live via Xfinity Channel 8 or high definition Channel 1072. It may also be accessed via the Government
Access Channel live stream on the Town of Barnstable’s website:
http://streaming85.townofbarnstable.us/CablecastPublicSite/watch/1?channel=1
Please silence your cell phones
Call to Order
Attendance Roll Call
Peri Wentworth
Conrad Watson
Kevin Matthews
Matt Clark
Laura Cronin
Tom Doherty
Cheryl Powell
Welcome to New Members, Special Guests, Advisors and Comments
Town Council Liaison Charles Bloom in attendance
Updates
• Trainings
• Awards
• Correspondence – letter anonymously received – reads into the record. Note – yellow post it, lights at Comfort Inn.
Reminder of Commission’s Purpose and Proper Procedure
Continued Business
Peggy McEvoy – 53 Pleasant Street, Hyannis – Map 327 Parcel 121
Demolition of shed - continued from November 20, 2024
Peggy McEvoy – 53 Pleasant Street, Hyannis – Map 327 Parcel 121
Shed - continued from November 20, 2024 (Click HERE for application and materials)
Peggy McEvoy in attendance. Maryann McEvoy also in attendance. They have decided to go with Pine Harbor Wood Products
now. The company builds the shed. Using Everlast PVC clapboard, this is in accordance. Asphalt arch shingles, two paneled bead
board door, 24 x 36 aluminum window and one pair of shutters.
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Laura Cronin, design still talking about using a PVC, not wood. This location, there are alternatives rather than the PVC clapboard.
Thinks improvement. Siding, would like to see in wood.
Kevin Matthews, PVC clapboard still considered vinyl. Vinyl siding is prohibited. Talking about a small shed, seems fine. Can
overlook because small shed.
Laura Cronin, keep in line with more historic materials being where it is and the visibility. The Nantucket House used wood and
clapboard. Across the street as well.
Corey Pacheco interjects, PVC is completely different material from vinyl siding.
Conrad Watson, this looks authentic, doesn’t have the vinyl look.
Corey Pacheco explains from staff report and how sketched out on the application.
Discussion regarding PVC and the Commission’s use of.
Kevin Matthews reads in guidelines; materials aluminum or vinyl siding are prohibited. Definition of clapboard siding. Composite
material. Clarifies it is Everlast PVC clapboard.
Chair Cheryl Powell, looks like is a composite material, which we do generally accept.
Peggy and Maryanne McEvoy clarify that it is composite material.
Kevin Matthews, is there a gloss finish?
Peggy McEvoy, no, it’s matte. Wouldn’t want a gloss finish.
Chair Cheryl Powell opens up public comment.
Tom Doherty, thinks with stipulations – would like a sample and approval with seeing the sample.
Corey Pacheco, this would not be a gloss finish.
Chair Cheryl Powell closes public comment.
Chair Cheryl Powell entertains a motion for the Findings, moved by Kevin Matthews to find these applications to be
compatible with the preservation and protection of the district, for the property at 53 Pleasant Street, Map 327 Parcel 121,
for both the demolition of old shed and new shed, Applicant must submit a sample of the Everlast clapboard for review by
Planning & Development Staff for approval for the use of Everlast composite material with a matte finish, seconded by Peri
Wentworth,
Roll Call Vote:
Laura Cronin – nay
Kevin Matthews - aye
Conrad Watson - aye
Matt Clark - aye
Peri Wentworth - aye
Cheryl Powell - aye
Chair Cheryl Powell entertains a motion for a Certificate of Appropriateness, moved by Kevin Matthews to issue for 53
Pleasant Street for the demolition of existing shed and new shed to be Everlast composite, matte finish and verified by
Staff, seconded by Peri Wentworth,
Roll Call Vote
Peri Wentworth - aye
Matt Clark - aye
Kevin Matthews - aye
Conrad Watson - aye
Laura Cronin - nay
Cheryl Powell - aye
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New Business
Centerville LLC – 606 Main Street, Hyannis - Map 308 Parcel 066
Windows and Siding
Jean Bowden from Capizzi Home Improvement.
Roland Gonsalves, project manager.
Roland Gonsalves explains the proposed work - to change out the windows on upstairs dormer, facing Main Street, 7 windows
above the stores and change out the siding as well as left gable siding. Hardie siding. Existing is painted cedar shingles on the
gable. Refers to picture submitted of gable and dormer – slate grey, clapboard style Hardie siding. Other work being done on
building but this is not visible, cannot see the rest of the building.
Tom Doherty confirms not storefront windows?
Roland Gonsalves, no, leaving those. Will be a creamy white paint.
Jean Bowden, windows above have grids, broken.
Roland Gonsalves has a sample of the grey, pre painted Hardie siding. Fiber cement composite material. Proposing Harvey vinyl
windows. Existing, some have grills some don’t . Proposing to do grills – vinyl. Matching the siding that is in the back, pre existing
now. Footprint of the building jogs. Already vinyl in back part. Will change out the existing shingles. Doors and picture windows
that are not seen, rotted out.
Jean Bowden, Bacon Terrace is not visible. Only presenting what is viewable from a public way.
Roland Gonsalves, far back part of building. Already vinyl sided and then a turn has cedar shingles. Three different types of siding
on the building now. Want to match vinyl on back part along the side that is not visible. Color of the vinyl is hearthstone. They will
be matching that.
Kevin Matthews confirms where the Hardie material will be.
Roland Gonsalves, front portion and left hand side. Refers again to the picture of the building. Would like to match the vinyl and
changing out 3 doors and picture windows.
Kevin Matthews, vinyl windows not allowed, composite are permissible and wood.
Roland Gonsalves, we can do a composite instead of the vinyl.
Jean Bowden, apartments in the back, a lot of work needs to be done.
Chair Cheryl P, windows to be composite and James Hardie composite siding.
Roland Gansalves, can do composite or wood for windows.
Corey Pacheco, need to submit the specifications for what the window material will be now.
Laura Cronin, front of the building now shingles, not replacing with any shingles? Clarifies. The section is mostly shingles.
Roland Gonsalves, is painted shingles now. Proposing to do the clapboard, James Hardie lap siding, fiber cement in the grey slate
color.
Kevin Matthews, new guidelines – section 1, regulations, part c, letter a, states vinyl windows are only allowed if appropriate
character of Cape Cod. Guidelines say wood is strongly recommended. Window fenestrations, pg. 23.
Laura Cronin, guidelines don’t state for visibility in/at the street level, seen by the street.
Chair Cheryl Powell, new guidelines, going forward will apply now.
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Corey Pacheco, 40C goes by what’s visible from a public way. This is in your jurisdiction, public way, public park or body of water.
Clarifies – the Commission can only regulate what is visible from a public way.
Roland Gonsalves confirms that it is private parking lot and the walkway, its for access for the residents.
Conrad Watson clarifies how much has to be replaced?
Roland Gonsalves, it would be 14 square.
Discussion regarding the difference between a public and private way
Chair Cheryl Powell opens up public comment.
Kevin Matthews, confused about window section and definitions.
Staff to review specifications for/on the windows.
Chair Cheryl Powell closes public comment.
Chair Cheryl Powell entertains a motion for the Findings, moved by Peri Wentworth, to find the application for 606 Main
Street, Map 308 Pacel 066 to be compatible with the preservation and protection of the district, windows will be wood or
composite and siding will be James Hardie as presented, and specifications for windows to be submitted to Staff for
review, seconded by Tom Doherty,
Roll Call Vote
Peri Wentworth - aye
Tom Doherty - aye
Matt Clark - aye
Kevin Matthews - aye
Conrad Watson - aye
Laura Cronin - aye
Cheryl Powell - aye
Chair Cheryl Powell entertains a motion for a Certificate of Appropriateness, moved by Peri Wentworth to issue for 606
Main Street as described in submitted materials and as stated for specification review by Staff for windows, seconded by
Kevin Matthews,
Roll Call Vote:
Conrad Watson – aye
Kevin Matthews - aye
Laura Cronin - aye
Matt Clark - aye
Tom Doherty – aye
Peri Wentworth - aye
Cheryl Powell - aye
Discussion
Clarification of Enforcement Procedure
Laura Cronin – some approved applicants have not been approved for certain things and have not complied with what was
approved. This is for when someone is approved by HHDC and did not comply with the approved decision.
Chair Cheryl Powell explains the process. That the Bldg. Commissioner can be notified from HHDC. We write to the person/entity
first and then they come before HHDC for approval. Bldg. Commissioner - we send a form to him and then they can enforce. Some
people do not realize they have to get approval.
Laura Cronin, we can’t do this?
Kevin Matthews, we should not get involved in enforcement, should come from the Bldg. Commissioner. As a member of the public
you can file a complaint.
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Discussion regarding racks, signage and other items on the sidewalk. How does enforcement get implemented.
Chair Cheryl Powell, can write to the Bldg. Dept. as well.
Matt Clark, we have appeals committee, why not put together an enforcement committee?
Laura Cronin, we don’t have any control over what gets done and the compliance of.
Town Council Liaison Charles Bloom, there is an effort to address enforcement at Town Council. It will be another Committee, not
this Commission. Ad Hoc committee feels enforcement should have been addressed and a part. Hopefully another Committee, it is
a huge issue. It’s throughout the town as well.
Matters not Reasonably Anticipated by the Chair
Kevin Matthews, joint meeting – would like to suggest the window regulations and guidelines have clarity and are one in the same.
Tom Doherty, when will we discuss pg. 46 of the Design Guidelines?
Corey Pacheco, trying to do a meeting with Cape Cod Commission also for pg. 46 of the Design Guidelines.
Chair Cheryl Powell, will meet with working group.
Approval of November 20, 2024 Draft Minutes
Chair Cheryl Powell entertains a motion to adjourn, moved by Kevin Matthews, seconded by Laura Cronin,
Roll Call Vote:
Laura Cronin – aye
Kevin Matthews – aye
Conrad Watson - aye
Matt Clark – aye
Tom Doherty – aye
Peri Wentworth - aye
Cheryl Powell - aye
Kevin Matthews, would like an opinion from legal regarding the library community art wall, from the Town’s Legal Dept.
Next HHDC meetings scheduled for December 18, 2024 and January 15, 2025
The December 18. 2024, meeting will be cancelled – The Commission is in agreement for this.
Adjournment
Chair Cheryl Powell entertains a motion to adjourn, moved by Laura Cronin, seconded by Peri Wentworth,
Roll Call Vote:
Laura Cronin – aye
Kevin Matthews – aye
Conrad Watson – aye
Matt Clark – aye
Tom Doherty – aye
Peri Wentworth - aye
Cheryl Powell – aye
The meeting ended at 7:57 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Karen Pina
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