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Home My WebLink About0176 CAP'N CROSBY ROAD - Health 176 Captain Crosby Centerville A - - No. 4210 1/3 ORA Pendaflexo AUX 10% HE Town of Barnstable BARMABM 9�A1639. Board of Health rEn . P.O. Box 534, Hyannis MA 02601 Office: 508-862-4644 Susan G.Rask,R.S. FAX: 508-790-6304 Sumner Kaufman,MSPH Wayne Miller,M.D. Mr. and Mrs. Peter J. Tirinnanzi September 4, 2003 184 Captain Crosby Road Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Scott TKO-apta.in Crosby-Road Centerville, MA 02632 Dear Mr. and Mrs. Scott and Mr. and Mrs. Tirinnanzi, Thank you for your letter dated August 25, 2003 and for your participation during our informal discussion last Tuesday evening regarding the vacant lot at 176 Captain Crosby Road Centerville. We wish to make it clear that the Board did not make any indication to the applicant that an alternative—type percolation test method would be approved. We also wish to make it clear that the Board did not make any indication as to whether or not any variances would be granted for new construction at this site. One Board member did inform the engineer during the previous meeting that a drill rig could be used and split-spoon coring samples could be obtained to examine the different soil types. During the discussion, the Board member stated that this methodology doesn't fit into the standard and the Board will have to consult with the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection(DEP). At least two percolation tests must be conducted in compliance with the State Environmental Code, Title 5. The procedure for performing a percolation test is clearly specified within Section 310 CMR 15.105 of the Code. Please feel free to view our website at www.town.bamstable.ma.us to view the schedule and agendas of upcoming Board of Health meetings. The agendas are usually posted on the we site one week before each scheduled meeting date. Sinc ly yours Wayne iller, M.D. Cc: Ed Pesce, P.E. RECElklr AUG 2 9 2003 TOWN OF BARNS _ Mr. a i'.Ekt f rinnanzi 184 Captain Crosby Road Centerville, Ma. 02632 Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Scott 160 Captain Crosby Rd. Centervile, Ma. 02632 August 25, 2003 Barnstable Department of Health Board Chairman, Wayne Miller,MD et al. 200 Main Street Hyannis, Ma. Dear Sir and Madam: Please be advised that we, the abutters and neighbors, of the lot situated between 160 Captain Crosby Rd and 184 Captain Crosby Rd are angered by your hearing testimony from Mr. Pesce relating to his letter written to the Board. You, without notifying us, advised him he could proceed to take multiple soil samples at a depth of 30-35 feet below the surface of the lot. For what purpose would he like to do that if he didn't expect that you would grant him a variance for an alternative septic system? You have given the appearance of collusion withMr. Miller, owner, and Mr. Pesce, soil expert. The purpose for which is not immediately clear. Under State Law, Title V, no alternative soil samples or perc tests are permitted. Since it is the law and there is no precedence in Barnstable, we would hope you would abide by it. In short, we hope you would advise Mr. Pesce that no further soil samples nor perc tests will be required since no variance should be given. In the future, we hope that if a property is discussed by the Board you would see fit to notify the concerned parties so we might have some input. Finally, we would like to add that Mr. Miller is an irresponsible owner who has allowed his a agents to destroy the trees and ground cover which held the grade together. We are deeply concerned about the erosion and mud and standing water at the rear of the lot. We fear for our properties and the wet lands which hang in a delicate balance. Further drilling could potentially cause serious reprocussions. Submitted by.- MaryAnn and Arthur Scott, 160 Captain Crosby Road Julie and Peter Tirinnanzi, 184 Captain Crosby Road cc. Susan Rask, RS, Sumner Kaufman, MSPN, Thomas McKeon, Chief, Regulatory Services and staff. i PESCE ENGINEERING AND ASSOCIATES 451 Raymond Road Plymouth, MA 02360 Voice/FAX (508) 743-9206 July 30, 2003 Mr. Thomas A. McKean, R.S., C.H.O_ Director, Town of Barnstable Health Department 200 Main Street Hyannis, MA 02601 SUBJECT: 176 Captain Crosby Road, Assessor's Map # 193, Parcel#203 Dear Tom, Per our conversation today I'm writing to request that I be added to the next available BOH agenda to discuss the possibility of performing an alternative percolation test for 176 Capt. Crosby Road. Background • My client has a record of previous drilling activities performed by Desmond Well Drilling, indicating clay soils to a depth of 50 feet, after which sands were encountered. • The previous perc testing performed on December 18, 2002 showed sandy loam and glacial till soils to a depth of 14 feet, with perched water observed at 34-52" depth. Static groundwater was not observed. Proposed Approach • To use a drill rig to explore the site at depth to determine the actual depth of the sandy permeable layer. • After locating this layer, determine the feasibility of actual deep excavation of the overburden soils to conduct a perc test. • This approach I believe will require a variance of the Part Vill, Section 9.00 bylaw regarding 4 feet of naturally occurring pervious soil below the leaching area above the maximum groundwater elevation. Mr. Thomas A. McKean July 30, 2003 Page 2 Again, I understand that this procedure may yield results that would require variances to Barnstable Health Regulations, in order to design and approve a Title 5 septic system for this lot (for a single family home). It is my understanding that the Board may have approved such variances for systems for other lots with similar conditions. Thank you again for your help with this project. Sincerely, esc , P.E. cc: Mr. Harry Miller Town of Barnstable Regulatory Services 16yg: �� Thomas F. Geiler, Director AlEO MA'S� Public Health Division Thomas McKean, Director 200 Main Street, Hyannis, MA 02601 DATE: July 30, 2003 NUMBER OF PAGES TO FOLLOW: 1 TO: FROM: Ed Pesce Thomas McKean PHONE: PHONE: (508)862-4644 FAX PHONE:(508) 743-9206 FAX PHONE: (508)790-6304 cc: NOTES/COMMENTS: RE: 176 Captain Crosby Road, A=193-203 Dear Mr. Pesce, I am in receipt of your request to be added to the next Board of Health meeting agenda. Before a meeting is scheduled regarding your "failed" percolation test and a proposed "alternative" percolation test at 176 Captain CRosby Road, please provide a detailed written proposal of how you plan to proceed with alternative methods. The written proposal would be reviewed by Boardmembers before a public meeting is scheduled in this regard. t cerely o , McKean Q:\HEALTH\Fax Form.doc TransmissionFAX From: � C Date: &q �iy To: 10W\ MG eeW g D' aOU Company: Rmv , �� FAX#: 6> -/ Total Number of Pages (Ind. Cover) Message: C/Vv t � II 0-6 G G ; VOICE: (508) 743-9206 FAX: (508) 743-9206 451 Raymond Road, PlyMOLItIl, MA 02360 n8/2ts/03 THU 10:23 FAX 508 775 9974 BUSINESS CENTER CAPE COD Z 002 Mr. and Mrs. Peter J. Tirinnanzi 184 Captain Crosby Road Centerville, Ma. 02632 Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Scott 160 Captain Crosby Rd. Centervile, Ma. 02632 August 25, 2003 Barnstable Department of Health Board Chairman, Wayne Miller,MD et al. 200 Main Street Hyannis, Ma. Dear Sir and Madam; Please be advised that we, the abutters and neighbors, of the lot situated between 160 Captain Crosby Rd and 184 Captain Crosby Rd are angered by your hearing testimony from Mr. Pesce relating to his letter written to the Board. You, without notifying us, advised him he could proceed to take multiple soil samples at a depth of 30-35 feet below the surface of the lot. For what purpose would he like to do that if he didn't expect that you would grant him a variance for an alternative septic system? You have given the appearance of collusion withMr. Miller, owner, and Mr. Pesce, soil expert. The purpose for which is not immediately clear. Under State Law, Title V, no alternative soil samples or perc tests are permitted. Since it is the law and there is no precedence in Barnstable, we would hope you would abide by it. In short, we hope you would advise Mr. Pesce that no further soil samples nor perc tests will be required since no variance should be given. In the future, we hope that if a property is discussed by the Board you would see fit to notify the concerned parties so we might have some input. Finally, we would like to add that Mr. Miller is an irresponsible owner who has allowed his a 08/18/03 THU 10:23 FAX 508 775 9974 BUSINESS CENTER CAPE COD Z 003 agents to destroy the trees and ground cover which held the grade together. We are deeply concerned about the erosion and mud and standing water at the rear of the lot. We fear for our properties and the wet lands which hang in a delicate balance_ Further drilling could potentially cause serious reprocussions. Submitted by: MaryAnn and Arthur Scott, 160 Captain Crosby Road a-4� 5f- --J-� Julie and Peter Tirinnanzi, 184 Captain Crosby Road cc. Susan Rask, RS, Sumner Kaufman, MSPN, Thomas McKeon, Chief, Regulatory Services and staff. PESCE ENGINEERING AND ASSOCIATES 451 Raymond Road Plymouth, MA 02360 Voice/FAX (508) 743-9206 July 29, 2003 Mr. Thomas A. McKean, R.S., C.H.O. Director, Town of Barnstable Health Department 200 Main Street Hyannis, MA 02601 SUBJECT: 176 Captain Crosby Road, Assessor's Map # 193, Parcel #203 Dear Tom, I'm writing to request that I be added to the next available BOH agenda (if possible on August 19, 2003) to discuss with the Board an alternative percolation test for 176 Capt. Crosby Road. I will review the status of the percolation testing completed to date, and discuss a proposal to conduct deep soil exploration to determine if suitable permeable soils do exist on the lot. My client wishes that I discuss this informally with the Board to determine the feasibility of any further progress towards developing this vacant lot for a single family home. Thank you again for your help with this project. Sincerely, dward L. Pesce, P. cc: Mr. Harry Miller -71 bz 7r„ (,&,a 0 �- J4 CCa�� NC6cfkL, P. 1 * COMMUNICATION RESULT REPORT ( JUL.30.2003 8:21AM ) TTI BARNSTABLE BOARD OF HEALTH FILE MODE OPTION ADDRESS (GROUP) RESULT PAGE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 799 MEMORY TX 915087439206 OK P. 2/2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REASON FOR ERROR E-1) HANG UP OR LINE FAIL E-2) BUSY E-3) NO ANSWER E-4) NO FACSIMILE CONNECTION Town of Barnstable -� Reaulatory Services * u�krrsresre, a Thomas F. Gefler, Director Public Health Division Thomas McKean,Director 200 Main Street, Hyannis,MA 02601 DATE: Jilly 30, 2003 NUMBER OF PAGES TO FOLLOW: 1 TO: FROM: Ed Pesce Thomas McKean PHONE: PHONE: (508)862.4644 FAX PHONE:(508) 743-9206 FAX PHONE: (508)790.6304 Cc: l