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Board Members
Stephen Robichaud – Chair Robert Twiss – Vice Chair Tim O’Neill - Clerk Mary Barry Steven Costello Michael Mecenas Raymond Sexton
Mathew Levesque – Town Council Liaison
Planning & Development Dept. Staff Support
Elizabeth Jenkins, AICP, Director
Kaitlyn Maldonado, Assistant Director
James Kupfer, AICP, Senior Planner
Karen Herrand – Principal Assistant - karen.herrand@town.barnstable.ma.us
Town of Barnstable
PLANNING BOARD
Minutes
October 24, 2022
Stephen Robichaud – Chairman Present
Robert Twiss, Vice Chairman Present
Tim O’Neill – Clerk Present
Mary Barry Present
Steven Costello Present
Michael Mecenas Present
Raymond Sexton Present
Also in attendance via remote participation were Planning & Development Staff; Elizabeth Jenkins, Director,
Kate Maldonado, Assistant Director, James Kupfer, Senior Planner and Karen Herrand, Principal Assistant.
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Call to Order Introduction of Board Members and Staff Members
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Attendance Roll Call
Ray Sexton
Tim O’Neill
Bob Twiss
Michael Mecenas
Steven Costello
Mary Barry
Stephen Robichaud
Notice of Recording This meeting is being recorded and broadcast on Channel 18 and in accordance
with MGL Chapter 30A §20. The Chair must inquire whether anyone else is taping this meeting and to
please make their presence known.
Public Comment: General - None
Regulatory Agreements:
Shoestring Properties, LLC seeks to enter into a Regulatory Agreement with the Town of Barnstable to
construct thirty-four (34) condominium units in two (2) buildings with associated improvements at 110
School Street and 115 School Street, Hyannis. The redevelopment consists of twenty-two (22) 3-
bedroom units and twelve (12) 2-bedroom units. A total of 70 parking spaces will be provided. (Majority
of members present and voting) continued from August 8, 2022, in order to form a sub committee and
continued from September 26, 2022 and October 3, 2022
Chair Stephen Robichaud gives an update on the Subcommittee process. Shares screen/slideshow.
Exhibit A. Summary Recap presentation. Five members. Had 4 meetings. Presentation from Applicant.
Heard from Dept. heads. Update and review of draft findings. Now have a final review of draft findings.
DPW recommendations. Improvements/sidewalks.
Jim Kupfer, the widening of sidewalks to 8 ft. stems from the open space plan. Seeking to make
connections for multi use paths. Key section. Over time built out to enhance multi mobile path for all
users in that area.
Height – Initially 72 ft. but has been revised to 65 ft. Revised, roof different, brought the height down.
Harbor views shown. School St. view shown. Comparisons to other buildings with revised height. Cell
tower, Town Hall, Cape Cod Hospital. Landscaping, committee wants more robust landscaping. Bring in
as much green space as possible.
Affordable housing, biggest topic for subcommittee. Payment in lieu. Offsite rental units. Full details
for all proposed offsite affordable units. Greater number than the minimum required. Recommending a
minimum of 9 bedrooms, 5 off site affordable units. School Street Access. On site maintenance for.
Views from overhead shown. Street parking and dedicated turnoffs. Not appropriate for short term
rental, one per year, duration no less than 30 days.
Ray Sexton, two concerns; providing as many affordable housing units as we can. More important the
number of units, not bedrooms. Should have a public good/minimum 6 front doors – offsite facility.
Built to substantial standards. Why does it have to be as high as it is, even with reduction is still twice as
high as standards allow in this area.
Stuart Bornstein in attendance. The infrastructure cost. Spending close to a million on sidewalks and
the elevators cost so much extra to hold the building and we need that many units to pay for this/itself.
Underground parking. 8 elevators in the building, they have increased the cost.
Attorney Kenney, the structure itself is high end luxury units, the details are expensive as well. Parking
underground expensive also.
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Ray Sexton, want to be Cape Cod Hyannis Harbor, not Miami Beach. Appreciates the financial
explanation.
Tim O’Neill, watched the Subcommittee meetings. Any offsite housing, clarifies how many. Thinks is a
good start. Comment letters. Concerns over the traffic and road layout specifically on School Street and
on street parking. Access to waterfront.
Bob Twiss, commends subcommittee and applicant for working together. Two issues; Affordable
housing, front doors, not so much bedroom count. Want to get more than 5 families off the street, 6
units should be part of the agreement. Huge number of waivers. Thinks appropriate for Town to
balance by getting a higher number of affordable units. Minimum of 6 units is where we should be
starting at if not more. The height. Huge deviation. Has made a significant adjustment. Hard to get a
feeling in an abstract, possibly a visual balloon or crane test? To see what the height would be and
could actually see where would be.
Chair Stephen Robichaud agrees – possibly doing a visual aid.
Michael Mecenas, number of affordable units is a concern. Would like to hear what the public has to
say about this.
Mary Barry, appreciates the presentation and Subcommittee work. Concerns – waivers and affordable
housing and parking. Would like when HOA implemented – to have to continue with any agreements
with the property?
Jim Kupfer, yes, correct.
Steven Costello, when Subcommittee discussed, there was a discussion about 3 bedroom units. Thinks
more units could definitely be asked for. Height. Field trip/visual to the site. Practical logistics. Delivery
concerns and have a pull off to allow for these types of vehicles. South Street backing up.
Stuart Bornstein, they had submitted a picture of a 4 story building. Kept the height pretty good and
because have the underground garages.
Chair Stephen Robichaud, site visit potential. Tour the site, ask questions .
Jim Kupfer, no deliberation. Send out limited invites. Review, walk around. Questions would have to be
saved to be at a public meeting. Could put together a crane visual.
Public Comment
Cheryl Powell in attendance. Apologizes for not being at Subcommittee meeting. Letters get to the
Board members. Mugar at Cape Cod Hospital is set back and not in Historic District. Look at
appropriateness of the area. 2.5 stories is what’s acceptable, we have guidelines. Revised renderings,
does it need to come back to Hyannis Main Street Waterfront Historic District Commission (HHDC)?
Issues with abutter notifications. A revised rendering should come back to HHDC for what is now a
different proposal.
Laura Cronin in attendance. Opposes the site and project as it is now. Too big and too dense for that
location. Height is still over 2.5 allowed even with revisions now. Comparisons of buildings in the area.
Waterfront would be much higher, 6 or 7 ft. So many waivers. What if not able to comply due to
materials, shortages etc. New renderings are very different. This developer has had this property like
this for many years. He did not take care of the property. Affordable housing units, agrees with the
Board to get some of these units. Project is too large and to bulky.
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Benjamin Surro in attendance. 89 Lewis Bay Rd. The parking issue is his concern. Where do all the
visitors park? Our lot is very full. How/where?
Marie LeBlanc in attendance. 89 Lewis Bay Condo Association. Was approached by Mr. Bornstein to
rent some spots to his overflow parking. They did not accept his offer. They tow on a regular basis.
Speeding and turning in wrong direction. More congestion would be a problem. Anchor Inn has sold.
They did not go up higher because of parking situation.
Craig Tamash in attendance. A lot of traffic on School Street. No place to go, dead end, no place to turn
around. Right of way is 33 ft. intersection 22 ft. with the sidewalks, is this adequate for the trucks.
There is no on street parking now because to narrow and too much traffic. Parking manager? Condo
board, what will require them to still have a parking manager, what is the enforcement? Delivery trucks,
landscapers, maintenance people where park when working here? Maybe this project isn’t the right
place for this height.
Attorney Lawler in attendance. Attended all the meetings and Subcommittee meetings. He represents
the Marina. 4 story buildings in the area and comparison – these are flat style roofs. Very important to
consider with the precedent this type of project would bring. This lot was purchased over 20 years ago.
The front was sold off. Needs extra relief so can build high end. Going up 5 stories on one of the highest
points on the harbor. Visual impact would be good to do/crane. 22 ft. up on a high hill. Parking.
Seeking 32 waivers. This zoning was created for 2.5 stories for height. Bedrooms look at for calculating
the parking. 6 spaces blocked in. Million dollar units being sold to wealthy people. 90 bedrooms with
70 parking spaces. 10 are on the street. Plans start at South St, but don’t encompass the bottom of the
street. Trucks pull down there, as well as a lot of foot traffic. This is a problem today. Where do they
go? Where do maintenance people park in order to work, cleaners etc. From June 15th to Sept. 15th will
be a problem time. The impact with this project. Lewis Bay was a regulatory agreement and they have
parking issues. Fire and Rescue can’t get to people who may need help. To much density. Need to
preserve it. Way too much for this area. Opposition.
Wayne Kurker in attendance. The beauty of the harbor is much more important than a project like this.
This is going to be the first thing people see coming into our harbor. Tallest building on the tallest point.
This is more than twice as high as allowed in the District. Lewis Bay has to tow all the time.
Management there all the time from the parking. Delivery issues. Everyone knows he needs the parking
spaces here. Can’t be directing traffic for these issues. Highest point on the harbor. Visual is a great
idea. Traffic flow down hill is bad. Fire Dept. has hard time. Too much density for the neighborhood.
Motion made by Mary Barry to continue Regulatory Agreement 2022-002 Dockside Residence, 110
School Street and 115 School Street to November 14, 2022 at 7:00 PM. , seconded by Steven Costello,
Roll Call Vote:
Ray Sexton - aye
Tim O’Neill - aye
Bob Twiss - aye
Michael Mecenas - aye
Mary Barry - aye
Steven Costello - aye
Stephen Robichaud - aye
Zoning Amendments:
Proposed Zoning Amendment – TC Item No. 2023-023 - The proposal is to amend Chapter 240 Zoning,
Article III, § 240-39 Shopping Center Redevelopment Overlay District by repealing and replacing the
existing zoning ordinance to allow for mixed-use development including multi-family dwellings, hotel
and office uses with specified parking and dimensional requirements within the overlay district. In
addition, the proposed amendment incorporates affordable housing requirements for multifamily
dwelling development, updates parking requirements for retail and regional shopping centers, updates
landscape requirements, and updates Special Permit provisions and procedures among other proposed
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amendments – continued from September 26, 2022 and October 3, 2022 (Majority of members present
and voting for recommendation to Town Council)
Attorney Eliza Cox in attendance.
Tim Fox, Simon Malls in attendance.
Attorney John Kenney in attendance.
Attorney Cox gives an update from the last meeting. Since last hearing have had several
communications regarding a potential inter connect. Attorney Kenney made a draft. These
conversations are ongoing
Chair Stephen Robichaud, great to hear about conversations ongoing.
Ray Sexton, affordable housing formula. How will it work here?
Jim Kupfer, section which references affordable housing is a two part section. Affordability is key and
producing affordable housing is important and recent zoning changes to change to 13% affordable
housing. Will meet the town’s inclusionary at 10% now, but through the SCROD will provide - 13%. Will
help in meeting our goals in affordable housing. Examples of how it would work.
Ray Sexton, both current and proposed prohibits drive through, correct?
Jim Kupfer, yes, specific, sub zone.
Tim O’Neill, Glad to hear talks ongoing with the abutting area issue. Great update to the area/zoning.
Good to promote density and development and flexibility with tenants and space.
Bob Twiss, productive to wait for parties to discuss. Recommend to adopt it.
Michael Mecenas, likes the project, move along.
Mary Barry, good project. Change is good for this area.
Steven Costello, in favor from the start. If housing isn’t part of component, still pleased to hear that
discussions are ongoing/moving forward.
Chair Stephen Robichaud, mixed use is good and good modification to the area. Housing should come
out of this. Good that dialogue in going on. All abut housing.
Mary Barry, asphalt here, hope some consideration to making more of a landscaped area/greenspace.
Attorney Cox, one of the changes is incorporating more landscaping beyond what currently by law
requires.
Public Comment:
Attorney Kenney. Easement issues. Dates to 2009. Bill Jackson in 2011, had negotiations. Became a
license by Simon Mall. There were some bad feelings for a while. Jeff Balise bought the property.
Easement discussions, no response - 2018, still studying the documents until today. Land lease, how
will develop if don’t have access. Take the easement and give 120 days notice, can cancel. Once zoning
goes through, if zoning passes Fresh Holes road will open up again. There will be increased traffic. What
community benefits are coming with this Zoning? We will get a less safe traffic flow. Suggest to amend
the map and add his client’s property to it, not something that can be canceled in 120 days. Someone
should have come to his client about this. Simon properties closed the curb cut and are refusing to
grant access to use the infrastructure at Route 28. Amend this and add his client’s property.
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Jim Kupfer, amendment to the map would be separate zoning. This is for text.
Attorney Kenny, yes it would delay, but what is the public benefit to the Town. Have no leverage if this
gets passed through. Need an easement. This would be a license.
Chair Stephen Robichaud, those deliberations would be separate from what is before us now. Housing
is the public benefit.
Attorney Cox, traffic impacts/flow. This isn’t the time to do that. When project proposed there will be
time for this type of review. The impacts are looked at, at that time. And the Zoning permit if this is
needed. This is the beginning of a potential process.
Steven Costello, what would be the impact if those parcels are not added to the map? Any detriment?
If these parcels are included – how does it make it a better use?
Jim Kupfer, impacts may come down to really what is developable on the site. Density on the site. If in
the overlay district may limit. Curb cut on Route 28 would come down to once an actual site plan review
done. Would have to look at the traffic impact at that time. Always good to make the connectivity.
May be a little premature to tell within the overlay. Staff can work with the property owner to assist in
achieving what ultimate goals are.
Steven Costello, not in favor of doing/recommending this tonight. Doesn’t see the urgency.
Ray Sexton, what is the downside of delaying the vote tonight – will be a separate item to amend the
map? Will we hold off until that such time in order to maximize the public good to incorporate both
parcels, how long would that take? Worthwhile to wait? The Planning Board does not mediate/private
negotiations.
Tim O’Neill, want to promote the development. Can’t regulate all. A lot of options in the future to place
parcels into the zoning, plenty of options.
Bob Twiss, if amendment to the map, which included this land/parcels, wouldn’t we still be in the exact
same situation with the parking lot?
Chair Stephen Robichaud, yes.
Michael Mecenas, thinks great project, ready to move forward.
Mary Barry, should move forward. Understands the situation. We would still be in the same position.
Tim Fox, Simon Malls. Had conversation with Attorney Kenny and keeping communications going.
Chair Stephen Robichaud entertains a motion to close the public hearing, moved by Bob Twiss,
seconded by Tim O’Neill,
Roll Call Vote:
Ray Sexton - aye
Tim O’Neill - aye
Bob Twiss - aye
Michael Mecenas - aye
Mary Barry – aye
Steven Costello - aye
Stephen Robichaud - aye
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Chair Stephen Robichaud entertains a motion to recommend, moved by Tim O’Neill to recommend
Zoning Amendment TC Item No. 2023-023, as presented to Town Council, seconded by Ray Sexton,
Roll Call Vote:
Ray Sexton - aye
Tim O’Neill - aye
Bob Twiss - aye
Michael Mecenas - aye
Mary Barry - aye
Steven Costello - nay
Stephen Robichaud - aye
The motion passes 6 to 1.
Staff Updates
Local Comprehensive Plan
Kate Maldonado in attendance. Gives an update. Have achieved meetings and gone to several venues.
LCP discussed with parents out in the field to get insight. Civic Association meetings. Public /community
areas, what can do to improve and enhance. Bob Twiss has helped, thank you. Suggest Board visit
LCP.com. next meeting this Thursday, Oct. 27th, via Zoom. To provide a presentation, goals and
strategies in 2010 LCP. Next steps for engagement. Promote soon to be released survey, next Monday.
Staff will be on Main St. handing out candy and fliers to engage our residents. Spread the word. Trying
to get as much feed back as we can.
Correspondence
Chapter 91 Notice – 49 Main St., Centerville – Pier extension/Glen Lane Trust
Chapter 91 Notice – 707 South Main St., Barnstable – Pier/float/Gavin Trust
Matters Not Reasonably Anticipated by the Chair
Approval of Minutes
September 26, 2022, draft minutes
Chair Stephen Robichaud entertains a motion to approve Sept. 26. 2022, draft minutes, moved by
Mary Barry, seconded by Michael Mecenas,
Roll Call Vote:
Ray Sexton - aye
Tim O’Neill - aye
Bob Twiss - aye
Michael Mecenas - aye
Mary Barry - aye
Steven Costello - aye
Stephen Robichaud - aye
October 3, 2022, draft minutes
Chair Stephen Robichaud entertains a motion to approve the draft minutes of Oct. 3, 2022, moved by
Mary Barry, seconded by Michael Mecenas,
Roll Call Vote:
Ray Sexton - aye
Tim O’Neill - aye
Bob Twiss - aye
Michael Mecenas - aye
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Mary Barry - aye
Steven Costello - aye
Stephen Robichaud - aye
Future Meetings: November 14th and November 28th, 2022, @ 7:00 p.m.
Adjournment
Chair Stephen Robichaud entertains a motion to adjourn, moved by Mary Barry, seconded by Michael
Mecenas,
Roll Call Vote:
Ray Sexton - aye
Tim O’Neill - aye
Bob Twiss - aye
Michael Mecenas - aye
Mary Barry - aye
Steven Costello - aye
Stephen Robichaud - aye
The meeting adjourned at 9:22 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted
Karen Herrand, Principal Assistant, Planning & Development
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