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Local Comprehensive Planning Committee
Minutes
Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 5:30 PM
Call to Order
Wendy Northcross opens the meeting at 5:30 p.m. with an introduction of Committee Members.
Member Present Absent
Wendy Northcross X
Cheryl Powell X
Mark Hansen X
Amanda Converse X
Sue Rohrbach X
Meaghan Mort X
Alyssa Chase X
Asia Graves X
Fran Parks X
Katia DaCunha X
Lindsey Counsell X
Jennifer Williams X
Bob Twiss X
Avery Revere X
Also in attendance are Planning & Development Staff James Kupfer, Assistant Director, Kate Maldonado, Senior Planner; Kyle
Pedicini, Community & Economic Development Planner; Karen Pina, Principal Assistant,
CALL TO ORDER
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None
PUBLIC COMMENT
Chuck Tuttle in attendance. Comments Vineyard Wind Project: Industrial onslaught being proposed. Contractors are
jeopardizing. More appropriate landfall sites. Industrial invasion. Likely to deliver irreparable damage to our natural
resources. Concerns with Aquifer and drinking water. Representing thousands of residents. Maybe a subcommittee
should be implemented for water concerns. Allow experts to help and make a plan.
Cliff Carroll in attendance. Handouts given to Committee, print out of presentation previously given. Sole Source
Aquifer. Picture of Centerville crossover, 28 acres that will get clear cut. Subdivision here. Oak Street transformers.
Knights Inn location on edge of Wequaquet Lake. Refers to page with red outline and black squares outlined.
Barnstable Fire District planned to have a water tower. Across street Oak Street transformer, 20,000 gallons of oil
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to 80,000 gallons of oil being proposed. Risking our well water. We are running short of supplies. Without water
will not have housing or meet needs.
Heather Swenson in attendance. Requesting officials to reconsider this wind project. Effects beaches and
roadways. Clean power, this is a residential neighborhood. Preserve and protect these waters. Lives on Wequaquet
Lake. Village should not be put in jeopardy. Concerns with catastrophic event. Waters may never be clean again.
Concerns with health risks. Town’s duty to protect. Find an alternative area.
Bob Shulte, Centerville resident. Mr. Gotlieb and ACCP have been good with efforts. Concerns with aquifer re large
substation being proposed. Not designed to protect sole source aquifer. Citizens are concerned. Have EPA conduct
a sole source aquifer exam. Request to schedule a session for discussion. Data segregated. Overwhelming choices
for housing, Industrial Park. No need to eliminate single family housing in our town.
Kate Gulliver, Hyannis, on Open Space Committee. Needs of the village of Hyannis are her concerns. Natural
resource planning is critical, clean air, clean water. Hyannis has largest population. Section 7.2.4 of Open Recreation
Park, including 725 West Main Street. Pocket park behind Stones Antiques. Natural Resource planning is critical for
animals, plants and humans. Stewarts Creek concerns. Need more open space and restoration of critical resources.
John Townes president of BARS, recreational shell fishing. Threatened by overdevelopment. Bays are polluted
beyond belief. Dead zone for shell fish. Opposing docks, threaten native shell fish. Boats will kill the shell fish at low
tides. No oxygen. Estuary concerns. Concerns with public water ways. Docks can go out for 20 to 30 ft. Part time
residents can put in a full time dock. Speaking for shell fishers. Promote the environment and help clean up the
waters.
Andrew - Marstons Mills resident. Concerns with windfarm project. Don’t need it and we will not benefit from it. Is
Connecticut benefiting and not us?
TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION
Update regarding Housing Chapter survey question results NOTE put above text under here.
Kate Maldonado– Natural Resources Chapter. Presentation.
Review of Housing Chapter Survey Questions Results
Proposed Natural Resources Survey Question
Kyle Pedicini – surveys are a public engagement process. Housing Chapter Survey.
345 responses. Shows chart presentation. After names were required as information, then got 170 responses.
Wendy Northcross are names published? Kyle Pedicini, yes. Public record. No address.
Cheryl Powell, important areas and major concerns from people that make up these responses? Most important
concerns? Results for? Tonight?
Kyle Pedicini, did have other responses. Proposed natural resource chapter survey question. Presentation of items
to be surveyed.
Interjection: Audience suggestion, a ranking of importance?
Kyle Pedicini, yes.
Mark Hansen, ability to rank ?
Kyle Pedicini, yes, shown on website.
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Interjection: Audience comment/suggestion, question regarding land acquisition – maybe wording can be broader,
possibly add windfarm to this?
Doug Payson, Open Space Committee opportunity - add passive recreational opportunities.
Kyle Pedicini, the next survey can go up asap.
Natural Resources presentation discussing current and anticipated regional needs and best practices by Andrew
Gottlieb, Executive Director of the Association to Preserve Cape Cod (APCC)
Andrew Gottlieb in attendance. Annually evaluate water quality. Estuary quality and fresh water ponds. 90% of 53
Estuaries have horrible water quality from residential septic systems. Also last year same ones failed. 5 years ago
68% failed. All but one on Buzzards Bay side and north side presented bad water quality. Largely residential activity.
Excess hydrogen from septic systems, illegal and inadequate systems. Septic systems do nothing to eliminate the
nitrogen. Change in use of existing properties. Used for either longer periods of time and increase intensity of use
associated with short term rentals. Contributes to decline. Increase in number of stations. Water quality degrades
first. Fewer and fewer stations closer to opening of estuaries have good water quality. Popponesset Bay none.
Time lag for the projects. Only as and when people connect will we start to see improvement/better. Until and
unless stopped will never get better. Estuary environment. Including Barnstable Harbor. Pond side. Not great data
for most of these. Limited. Need 3 years of data. 39% of Ponds exhibit poor water quality, and which ponds change
from year to year. More than 50% of ponds are marginal. Heavy rain storm events contribute to this as well, but not
the same for each pond. Stormwater runoff also a problem. Increased temperature contributes also.
Cyanobacteria will thrive in this. Doing some work with Cape Cod Commission (CCC) and satellite imagery. Callibrate
from look and water sample. Cyano blooms and color. Doing sampling on about 35 ponds. State of the waters
report. 21 public water suppliers. We have 5 in Barnstable. All provide water at entry that is either good or
excellent. No public water supply systems - 10 of the 21 are below standard in the water. Six regulated. Airport,
Joint Base Cape Cod PFAS, no containment plan to contain it from migrating off base. Nutrient management for
both fresh and marine water issues. Cape Cod area wide water quality plan focus around estuaries. To reduce
nitrogen load. There is no Town on Cape that has a good handle on the need for fresh water. Last year fresh water
initiative to get data. What areas are in most need. Develop set of recommendations. Started last April. Natural
Resource agencies. Right way to go with expansion of the sewer system. Way behind on wastewater management.
Gross mark Cape Cod with Housing Assistance Corporation (HAC). What areas are high priority natural resource
areas, higher density development when paired with wastewater infrastructure. Maps for each of the 15 Towns.
Shouldn’t be fighting with areas that can sustain. Hanging in the Balance report with HAC – 14% of land mass
underdeveloped. 60,000 acres. Single family attached dwellings, high prices for housing – existing patterns.
Working with Land Trust Partners to be able to work with this 14%. Some in municipal hands/owns, publicly owned.
How to move lands into the right category. Some excess between housing policy and wastewater, have to pair in
tandem. How to repurpose and caption housing affordability of existing housing stock. Housing units. Have to
reemphasize and repurpose.
Wendy Northcross, deed restriction of existing to obtain affordability, how long?
Andrew Gottlieb, been pushing as a priority, bigger problem is that it’s no one’s job to do this. Who’s responsibility
is it to obtain the affordability? Colorado has an agency for housing to maintain long term affordability. We don’t
have that on Cape Cod, we have inadequate tools and are not doing this.
Mark Hansen, a transition from overburden private septic systems moving to areas where there can be density,
would have to be significant, a lot of dwellings that have heavy loads.
Andrew Gottlieb, impossible to regulate intensity of use. Enforcement is limited. Dense single family owner
occupied. The denser or subsidized are going to have to be on infrastructure.
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Mark Hansen, not on private level?
Andrew Gottlieb, on single side, average south facing can handle 3 milligrams nitrogen, most systems get a credit
down to 19. Isn’t anything that competes with municipal disposable of and treatment. Some need 100% removal.
Mark Hansen, majority comes down to funding, or subsidized. Alternative funding sources, focus on the money to
speed up?
Andrew Gottlieb – generational time period requires a lot of money and conscious thought. Probably 20 different
approaches. Tax base. Towns need to think through the financing over other things. Cape Cod Towns have several
different means/ways to do this, need to prioritize how to do.
Asia Graves, eliminate septic systems completely, can get private developers to take money and they pay for sewer
in the neighborhood?
Andrew Gottlieb, Cape could get away with some systems remaining and do greatest load areas. Some Towns have
decided to sewer the whole town. Communities decide if they want it. More treatment is better than less.
Standards. Number of different ways.
Lyndsey Counsell, have you seen any cluster systems for pond water quality that would be successful in isolated
areas?
Andrew Gottlieb, something is better than nothing. Need to do the analysis to see if reducing enough load to make
a difference. Internal recycling phosphorus. Understand what’s driving the quality. Stop fertilizing will help.
Avery Revere, agree with no fertilizer. Windfarm information?
Andrew Gottlieb, on our website information goes well above what’s in place for what exists on Cape Cod.
Mitigation is appropriate.
Natural Resources presentation discussing the Town’s current status related to natural resources as well as
current and anticipated needs by Nina Coleman, Amy Croteau, and Chris Nappi of the Town’s Natural Resources
Division
Nina Coleman in attendance.
Chris Nappi in attendance.
Amy Croteau in attendance.
Presentation shown – Marine and Environment and Harbor Master and Natural Resources. 4 programs. And
animal control. Shellfish, Sandy Neck, enforcement for environmental laws. Manage Herring Runs, hunting and
fresh water fishing, wildlife issues and endangered species and animals.
Open space management. Enforcement in these areas. Lakes and ponds management. Stormwater
management and Ground water protection.
Chris Nappi – Senior Natural Resource Officer. North side Barnstable harbor and the South side. Shows a
presentation. Degrading water quality/conditions. Increase in algae blooms (fresh and salt water) impacting
shellfish habitats. Less swimming and fishing, loss of recreational activities. Upland habitat protection. Critical
upland habitats. Need to take a look at some spots that need protection. Increase of coastal storms, increase in
rain, 9 inches in month of January. We need to do better.
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Comprehensive evaluation of undeveloped municipal and private properties. Herring run restoration. Wetland
and upland preservation and Bog restoration. Some are underutilized and not utilized. We have knowledge of
these specific areas. Watershed and wildlife corridor protection must be implemented. Map shown of Herring
Runs: Boat Cove Creek, WB, Red Lily/Lake Elizabeth, Centerville, Marstons Mills River, Santuit River. Osprey
nestings.
Amy Croteau, senior Natural Resource Officer and Shellfish Constable. Presentation shown. Shellfish
Propagation. Recreational shell fishing. Since 2010 quahogs have increased. Oysters have increased. Habitat
assessments. Three Bays since 2010. Propagated from seed. Can only plant in a few areas now because of
habitat degradation – quahogs.
Oysters; water quality issues. Increase of 310 moorings. Docks and piers have increased. Marinas will prohibit.
Changes in water quality. Cotuit narrows is now subject to seasonal closure. Aquaculture. 72 sites. Tagging of
gear and maintenance of. Protection should be of paramount importance. Eelgrass. Evaluation of moorings.
Responsibility of property owners, docks, piers, septic, landscaping.
Nina Coleman, Sandy Neck presentation shown. Invasive species removal program. Endangered species
protection. Diamondback Terrapin program. Educational Outreach. Habitat conservation plan (HCP) Piping
Plovers. Programs fund capital improvement projects. Infrastructure and beach erosion. Rare and endangered
species. Increase in piping plovers and decrease in nesting habitats. Pressure from development. Next ten
years: accomplish Sandy Neck Coastal resiliency project. Use natural solution to improve resiliency. Evaluate
proactive planning and permitting. Maximize ecological health of town, herring runs, focus on protection and
restoration. Town’s open space. Explore opportunities to increase aquaculture on the south side. Consider
moratoriums on new docks and moorings. Evaluate mechanism for habitat protection.
Avery Revere, where are eel grass beds?
Amy Croteau, points out Kalmus and Nantucket Sound areas.
Lyndsey Counsell, moorings study? Looking at why can’t some areas be used for seeding?
Amy Croteau, increase in discharge from boats – become puddles, sludge after 4 ft., eel grass beds, mushroom
anchors.
Asia Graves, good presentation
Susan Rohrback – good presentation. Falmouth done something about fertilizers?
Amy Croteau, not familiar, lives in Falmouth. Whom enforces?
Interjection from audience – there is regulation in Barnstable for fertilizer. Extremely challenging.
Fran Parks, problem with the moorings, in Cotuit. Impossible to get around with all the moorings there.
Wendy Northcross, noticed more flooding at Great Marsh.
Nina Coleman, second largest marsh in Mass. Yes, has had some extreme flooding events, water going up into
the dunes on Sandy Neck. Big concern. Huge change in 20 years.
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Wendy Northcross, dumping on/in open space areas? Enforcement and surveillance in areas that we know are
common dumping areas? Has there been a plan with the Transfer Station, possibility of doing free dump days so
people can get rid of their items? Not just seasonal people - could have conversation with transfer station?
Avery Revere, Phragmites, not eradicated from Barnstable Harbor.
Nina Coleman, you have to remove all or it will come back. Sometimes can get a hold on it at beginning. Route
6A there are a lot of phragmites, a lot of herbicide would be the only way to get rid of. They do pull nitrogen out
of the system. But some areas are too far gone.
Cheryl Powell – prices are so high now to dump items.
Asia Graves, lives near nature preserves, there’s a lot of dumped items on walking trail.
Wendy Northcross, suggests to compile a wish list of properties would like to protect.
Nina Coleman, can make a list such as that.
Cheryl Powell, moratorium needed maybe get an impact review on this?
Cathy Leduc – public comment. Implement fertilizer bans/pesticide bans to this.
Implement all now.
Fran Parks, important to protect shell fishing.
Avery Revere, irrigation systems.
Cheryl Powell, pesticides, need to be looked at more closely.
Kate Maldonado, committee review goals and strategies. Can incorporate all. Any information missing after what
was heard that could be incorporated. Survey questions will be on project website.
Susan Rohrbach – maybe leave out land acquisition and ask what to focus on.
Agreed by Cheryl Powell and Asia Graves.
Wendy Northcross - difference between what is acquired
Kate Maldonado – survey question has served its purpose.
GENERAL CORRESPONDENCE
NEXT MEETING
February 22, 2024 at 5:30 PM to be held in person at the Barnstable Town Hall James H. Crocker Jr. Hearing
Room 367 Main Street, Hyannis, MA
MATTERS NOT REASONABLY ANTICIPATED BY THE CHAIR
ADJOURNMENT
Wendy Northcross entertains a motion to adjourn, moved by Asia Graves, seconded by Susan Rohrbach,
Vote: All aye
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The meeting ended at 7:51 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Karen Pina
Principal Assistant Planning & Development Dept.
The list of matters are those reasonably anticipated, which may be discussed at the meeting. Not all items listed may be discussed and other
items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law.