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Local Comprehensive Planning Committee
Minutes
Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 5:30 PM
Call to Order
Chair Wendy Northcross calls the meeting to order at 5:3 5 PM.
Member Present Absent
Wendy Northcross – Chair X
Cheryl Powell X
Mark Hansen X
Amanda Converse X
Sue Rohrbach X
Meaghan Mort X
Alyssa Chase X
Asia Graves X
Fran Parks X
Katia DaCunha X
Lindsey Counsell X
Jennifer Williams X
Bob Twiss X
Avery Revere X
Also in attendance is Planning & Development Staff Jim Kupfer, Director ; Kate Maldonado, Senior Planner; and Karen Pina, Principal
Assistant.
N otice of Recording
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Approval of Minutes
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
• Approval of Minutes from August 22, 2024
Wendy Northcross entertains a motion to approve the minutes of August 22, 20234, moved by Cheryl Powell,
seconded by Bob,
Vote:
All aye
Fran Parks abstains
PUBLIC COMMENT
Eric Schwaab in attendance. Doesn’t see a lot of support for zoning changes on route 132 or Main Street.
People don’t like it. This Committee never engaged the Civic Association. Osterville meeting not well
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received. Doesn’t think have enough information for this LCPC. Need to g et back out into community
again.
TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION
• Mapping exercise to update the Town’s Future Land Use Map
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Chair Wendy Northcross, doesn’t see a ton of change in the land use map.
Jim Kupfer. Two year proc ess at this point. Existing Conditions, Phase 1. Community engagement. Presentation
done. Chapter reviews. Each topic and local strategies. Future land use map to discuss this evening.
Then refined strategies.
Future Land Use Map. 2010 initial map and build off this base line. Updated version 2024. Review of the current
map. Independence Village Area Master Plan. This is a hodgepodge area, was our industrial park. A lot of
residential that has gone in here. What is the projection for this area. Need to know what would prevail here.
Community College Area Map Plan. Master plan there. What is the vision for this area. Historic Village Centers.
Refine into historic village. Historic character. Light Commercial/Mixed Use Corridor, West Main Street, allow for a
lot. Traffic issues. Heard refining commercial corridor to be more of a light use.
Residential and Rural. Protection of wooded lots. Add into action plan. RPOD allows for 2 acre residential. Maybe
change. These are changes from base line map. Industrial corridor/residential.
Cheryl Powell – Community College area, who owns it, would town have say in it?
Jim Kupfer, the state and some other entities own that. Mostly owned by the State.
Sue Rohrback, Centerville area?
Jim Kupfer, UB district, small business area in Osterville, existing commercial area.
Fran Parks, industrial section, Barnstable water is at it’s peak to buy water from that area. Impact on schools or
other services. More housing? Medical services?
Jim Kupfer, yes, would be critical and need to be involved.
Bob Twiss, working about 2.5 years now on this. Identified a lot of problems. Keep in mind what trying to do.
Things will have to happen after 10 year period. Two changes, one to create commercial/industrial on existing make
a master plan for entire area, including everything in green. Also, land around Cape Cod Community Colleges is a
good place to have a master plan. Agrees with designating historic centers. People have different concepts about
activity centers. Recognize that are historic districts as opposed to development districts. Thinks only make two
changes. There will obviously be zoning changes over the years.
Cheryl Powell – also have some minor changes.
Amanda Converse, maintaining wooded areas? West Main as we ll.
Jim Kupfer, parcels specific – plan to identify private wooded lots, where are and create corridors. Great action
strategy.
Amanda Converse, supportive of flushing this out more, likes this idea. West Main – like to see more mixed use for
repurposing properties vacant and not being used.
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Jim Kupfer, yes light commercial and mixed use, this is a challenge. Restrictions would impede and need to refine
language.
Avery Revere , Master Plan for Industrial Park and Cape Cod Community College, have to address Route 132 that
corridor is already being developed.
Wendy Northcross, would we change the use that’s assigned now?
Jim Kupfer, maybe all green should be the dashed yellow, which would include.
Avery Revere , part between Cape Cod Community College and the Mall, where Cape Cod 5 is. This is to have some
sort of vision of what we’d like to see.
Lindsey Counsell, is something not allowed in industrial area?
Jim Kupfer, not necessarily what is allowed and not allowed, its what would be long term and in harmony,
connectivity plan.
Cheryl Powell, vacant properties. Communication with these properties/property owners? Death by neglect
properties. Any communications besides tax bills?
Jim Kupfer, other departments could get involved, i.e., Health, DPW. Some are family owned, a lot of reasons for
vacancies.
Susan Rohrbach, village centers, would like to make it clear about what would the plan would like to see there,
possible housing. Make clear what intention is. Wooded lot, housing within a certain distance from West Main
Street there are already houses. What would we say? Rede velopment or available land?
Wendy Northcross, create opportunity, but maybe new parameters, don’t want to preclude reinvestment.
Fran Parks need a map that shows the wooded lots. Neglected homes – Cotuit is a build out, isn’t any place left to
build anything in Cotuit anymore .
Wendy Northcross, added protection to 132 corridor?
Lindsey Counsell, excluding the airport right?
Wendy Northcross, they are doing a master plan at the moment.
Cheryl Powell, if airport doing master plan, do we have a seat at that table as well?
Jim Kupfer, they are having public emails as well. Next steps would be report back out after public comment and
have it run through October and will bring back to Committee. Next topic will be discussing public comment
periods.
Public Comment
Eric Schwaab. Spoken with Town Councilor Betty Ludtke. Have bi right zoning in his precinct in residential areas. Want
some portion of Independence Village to include commercial bays for small businesses and have to be affordable. No
place for them to go, Town has to solve that problem here. This will solve density issues.
Wendy Northcross, agrees , have to have for small businesses.
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Amanda Converse, as well, need access to expand and to commercial bays.
Community College
Jim Kupfer, this is almost all state owned properties - have been some discussions .
Wendy Northcross, thinks some kind of tree canopy preservation for this area – solar field not beneficial to the trees,
beneficial to have Civic Association involved. School did study for dormitories, could it sustain itself , community colleges
are forbidden to have this. State said dorms wouldn’t work and the den sity for students. Good question to bring up
though.
Kris Clark - Open Space Committee. Discusse d about making that whole intersection safer for pedestrians and bike path
to come. Commuter parking area. State is looking to expand that area. Open Space , would like to improve the safety of
crossing. Maybe an elevated walkway. Discussion about future development in that area. West Barnstable Civic
Association has not been involved, but she can convey to them.
Historic Village Centers
Public Comment
John Crow, Town Councilor, precinct 5. Draft land use, pg. 14, developing or redeveloping village centers , how does that
enter into historic preservation ?
Jim Kupfer, clarifies that he is brin ging back the full list of strategies and full list of goals. Let’s go back through and make
edits now, and make sure they are all in sync.
John Crow, pg. 12, call for two and three f amily uses? Important to have open comment at these meetings. Shouldn’t
be a plan of attack.
Susan Rohrbach, need to figure out exactly what we mean by historic? How should be looked at?
Jim Kupfer, what definition of character is. This plan we could start to identify actions, want to have for 7 historic
villages, so let’s create – also can find out which are historically significant. Right now putting all on notice about villages
having historic character and then maybe putting some restrictions on it.
Suzanne G rafton, Osterville – what makes character, believes zoning creates this. Seen benefits of zoning and when not
enforced. People want choice. Shortage of parking in her village. Preserve character in Osterville.
Light Commercial Mixed Use Corridor aka West Main Street
Public Comment
Eric Schwaab, it would be great if you people would listen to the folks that live here. Open up whole area up to R oute
132, includes the High School and West Main, can’t develop this separate from R oute 28. Didn’t want 2 or 3 bedroom
housing. Want accommodations, something small. Wanted to move solar panels out of parking lot. Lot is ill con veyed
and is disconnected. Need for teacher housing across from Hy annis West School. Need to think about bike paths and
sidewalks. Cannot ride a bike safely on West Main Street. Northern portion of precinct 3, triangle. 300 feet for
commercial off of West Main. This will solve the traffic problem. Needs to be integrated with commercial bays.
Satchel Douglas in attendance. Yes, possibility for walking and biking. There are some great avenues and streets that
could use width.
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Wendy Northcross, granite curbs? Safer? Paint out a bike lane?
Satche l Douglas, yes, either.
Town Councilor Jeff Mendes, West Main Street, have to think about the whole corridor, traffic is a problem, mixed use
on West Main St, have to think about a holistic approach, if done in piece mail won’t fix the problem. East Main Street
and flow of traffic has to be considered. People here are living in very dense locations – Hyannis. Have to think about
the traffic.
Lindse y Counsell, streets program in Downtown Hyannis, if a pause, before any changes in the West Main area. Things
happen, before we got to drastic, possibly waiting a bit.
Wendy Northcross, traffic flow plan?
Jim Kupfer, actively working on growth safety audits, seeking a grant for some additional ones. He is actively
participating on G reat Streets and there are a number of studies. West Main – removing the language for mixed use,
which means downgrading what the zone is now, currently it is much more h e avier uses now than potentially
considering limiting on West Main, adding a rectangle area for workforce housing , that could be added.
Residential & Rural
Jim Kupfer, nothing proposed here as far as map changes. Heard a lot about preservation of certain areas. Water
resource areas, nothing proposed as a map change now.
Wendy Northcross, just suggestion to notch out the area next to C ape Cod Community College.
Susan Rohrbach, 2 acre zoning need to look at the future sewering and the zoning.
Jim Kupfer, CWMP, the phase 1 and how it relates. A lot of area that could be impacted. A lot of strategies.
Fran Parks, 2010 report – large buildings were to be built there. With this plan, people will be paying attention to it.
Jim Kupfer, real action strategies that we can create strategies and possibly re zoning of airport rotary traffic.
Susan, Rohrbach, there was some plans in the past to redo that area. Is that still in place?
Jim Kupfer, still on the list and would be the state.
Lindsey Counsell, plan for Route 132?
Jim Kupfer, yes, DPW has started and has had one open house, this is a large stretch and a lot of moving parts.
Satchel Douglas, does two acre reflect current build out of the density? Confusing to see the map with the two acres,
feels misleading also with historic villages.
Jim Kupfer, the density that is there today varies. Gone through different generations, grown larger as you go
northwest.
Wendy Northcross, if you interact with the mapping that would help people.
Avery Revere , seems questionable to have two acre zoning on Sandy Neck where there is no zoning.
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Eric Schwaab, if Hyannis bare burden of building going forward need to make some sacrifice. Suggests one possibility
would be to not bring your cars to Hyannis. Don’t have room, no place for cars in the future. Have more electricity than
we want. Substation has plenty. Maybe a light rail system. Could change and provide like a city. Then talk about how
to connect, to the bridge? Can’t solve all your problems.
Amanda Converse , do have to look at action strategies to promote elsewhere.
Avery Reve re , precinct one – that is baring the burden of the hugest developments right now , it isn’t actually Hyannis.
Fran Parks, two acre zoning, most people aren’t on this big of a lot , most are not two acre zoning.
Amanda Converse , Marston Mills school property is an opportunity.
Lindsey Counsell, what is build out in the Town of Barnstable, what is the carry capacity of the Town.
Jim Kupfer, through the CWMP, that is where that is defined.
Facilities didn’t complete yet, capital improvement plan. Clean up for the chapters. Kate’s been working on online
inte ractive use map. Press release out, get comments in and back to committee in October, placeholder Oct. 30 th?
November and December one meeting per month. Putting back out to the public, maybe having a listening session, can
also go to the villages as well.
Wendy Northcross, important to have an open mic night and listen to more concrete pieces for the plan. Several
different locations.
Cheryl Powell propose s that we organize that
GENERAL CORRESPONDENCE
NEXT MEETING
• September 26, 2024 at 5:30 PM to be held in person at the Barnstable Town Hall James H. Crocker Jr. Hearing
Room 367 Main Street, Hyannis, MA
MATTERS NOT REASONABLY ANTICIPATED BY THE CHAIR
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Wendy Northcross ente rtains a motion to adjourn, moved by Cheryl Powell, seconded by Lindsey Counsell,
Vote
All aye
The meeting is adjourned at 6:59 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Karen Pina
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not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law.
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